Isn't staging photgraphs by the news considered unethical?Oh, yeah. I forgot. This was by the mainstream "unbiased press." My bad.

Pathetic. One might almost be tempted to think that they were photographing something newsworthy ...

Busted. Again.

It obviously serves Israel's interests to allow this war to continue as long as possible. OK, don't ask, because it isn't obvious to me, but it must be to someone.

Is she holding an onion in her left hand?

Around a thousand Israeli and Palestinians rallied against the controversial security barrier that is meant, according to Israel, to keep suicide bombers out.

Can you just hear the sneer?

Excellent find, Charles!

I get that feelin' that, come tomorrow, somebody at Arab Press is gonna find a pink slip in his mailbox. You don't reveal the truth to the dhimmis and live to tell about it.

Phony Palestinian posers.
Is it any wonder why a pack of lying lunatics sides with these people? Hollywood would be proud.

This is called,'Making the scene!'

Where's the link?

Cry me a river, bee-OOOTCH!

Is there perhaps a subtle irony here, in that it is only the people on that side of the barrier who are crying?

Hmmm

#10

click the pic

The media will be the death of civilization, not content to cover it - they will cause it.

... lets start our day with a happy thought ... ;p

#10 Jakester
Click the picture for the link.

zulubaby - yeah - those you know what's probably thought the Berlin Wall was to keep everyone OUT of East Berlin, too!

Free Speech Is Only For Uber-Libs (#8)

Phony Palestinian posers.

That's to be expected. What about the photographers? The media is inciting hatred against the Jews.

[Link: www.thesprout.net...]

Ilka Schroder is a radical German member of the European Parliament:
"For me it is obvious that the Middle East has become one of the most important fields of European military superpower ambitions after the NATO-led war against Yugoslavia in 1999. You might say that this is the exaggerated mistrust of leftists, but wise Israeli politicians predicted this already during the bombing of Belgrade.
The primary goal of the EU is the internationalisation of the conflict in order to underline the need for its own mediating role. Here is the prevailing European view: The longer the conflict continues and the deeper it gets, the more evident is the incapability of the US to moderate a peace process. The EU thus concludes that both sides are in need of - ironically speaking - the good uncle from Europe to resolve this conflict with European democratic and ecological values, its welfare state and civil society. How good for both sides that there is Europe and how bad for the world that one side, and this is Israel, is affording a wild west type of policy in the style of the US.

Reminds me of Sam Kinison's bit about photographing Etheopian children.

Hey paleos-
The barrier will reduce the number of you that the Israelis are forced to kill in self-defense. The photo fisks itself in this way too as the graffiti above her head says "stop kill(ing) the (pa)lestin(ians)".

"Waaah, now my brave son cannot go and meet his 72 virgins." What a thoroughly despicable people.

This morning on CBC radio I heard an interview with
Eric Ben-Artzi, nephew of former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. His brother is a "refusenik" soldier in jail refusing to serve in the Israeli army.

After hearing this delightful chat, I sent the following email to the program:

"I listened with interest to your interview with the "refusenik" Israeli soldier whose brother is in jail for refusing to serve in the "Occupied Territories". I know the CBC is committed to a fair and unbiased examination of issues and events in the Middle East, and look forward to an interview with a Palestinian "refusenik--someone who refused to strap on a vest laden with explosives to detonate in a crowd of Israeli civilians.

I realize it might take a while to locate such an individual but, don't worry, I'm prepared to wait."

That poor woman! I mean, how are her people's terrori... uh, I mean, "freedom fighters" supposed to kill innocent civil... err, "the enemy" if there's a *wall* in the way? Life's just so unfair. Boo, hoo, hoo!

The "photojournalists" are nothing but paparazzi.

The actors playing the roles of "victim" and "resistance fighter" are the ones setting the stage, the mise-en-scene.

I have seen several other photographs like this one: once posted at Honest Reporting, a man draped in a Palestinian flag heroically throwing a rock, and behind him a dozen photographers - it is posed and the rock is going nowhere. Another at The Media Line of a man in a Palestinian head scarf throwing a rock and to his right are even more photographers waging what the caption calls "The Media's War." A third from AP of an anti-WTO demonstrator (i.e., a pro-poverty activist) in a Che Gueverra T-shirt, in Cancun on 9-11-2003 throwing a rock, and this time not only are there photographers to his sides and behind him, but there are also 6 photographers in front of him, and you can see that he is throwing the rock towards noone and nothing, just an empty parking lot.

I wish someone would collect photos such as these and put them in a file.

The news manufacturing industry may become more efficient when assembly line methods and automation become more standardized. The danger is that it will all be outsourced to Mexico or China and and there wont be enough ESL teachers and they will have to use subtitles. Of course the lower price price for a couple of tear jerkers and a starving kid or two will add to the bottom line of the wire services.

Sorry to go off-topic, but go take a look at the New York Times website. There is an article about the Israeli airstrike today that killed an Islamic Jihad leader along with one other person. The headline says "Israeli Air Strike Kills 12-Year-Old Boy". You have to go into the article to find out that it was a successful attack against
a terrorist.

It's disgraceful how the NYT slants the news to fit their agenda.

RG

NY Times article

Talk about crocodile's tears...

Notice how the panel selected for the backdrop has a message in English while on either side the messages are in Arabic.Any bets on wether the messages were sprayed by the "newsmen" themselves, and that she was moved from side to side depending on what the targeted audience was for the photos? Busted indeed.

[Cameraman] OK, we got the shot. You can knock it off with the crocodile tears, babe.

[Woman] Not so fast! You promised me ten bucks if I could cry on camera.

[Cameraman] Here'ya go...

[Woman] Thanks! See ya next week at the scheduled location.

As Paul Harvey would say, "And now you know the rrrest of the story!"

Speaking of media white-washing:

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - An Israeli helicopter fired a missile into a car traveling in a crowded Gaza City street Saturday, killing a leader of the militant Islamic Jihad group and a 12-year-old boy on his way to school. The attack wounded 10 Palestinians, three of them critically, in Israel's first targeted killing in six weeks, doctors said.

Israeli Airstrike Kills Militant Leader

Oh, those horrible Jooos! They're targeting innocent civilians again! Quickly, contact the Hague and get these barbarians put on trial!

/LLL

Could they be any more blatantly biased? I mean really, how much further could they sink?

Rob G (#24)

My blood pressure just went up.

These photographers must have gone to The Andrew Gilligan School of Journalism: Why bother reporting the news when fabricating it is so much more compelling?

#10
Where's the picture?

These are probably the same assholes that photograph the stone-throwing kids without showing the masked gunmen hiding behind them.

"...aaand scene... thank you"

And there is supposed to be a Zionist controlled media conspiracy. Phooey.

IMPORTANT NEW STORY IGNORED BY THE MEDIA:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

Apparently "blackmail" works!

Four tried for bombing US convoy in Gaza

That was quick ...

Possible comedy routine:

First, a take off on an old SNL favorite:

Guy #1: "So-uh, who do ya t'ink is behind dis bombing?"

Guy #2: "I'm t'inkin' it's a certain group a' people, from a certain country dat begins with the letter 'i,' ends in the letter 'l,' and in the middle, 'srae.'"

Guy#1: "Ah . . ."

Guys #1&2: "Da JOOOS!"

In the salty not-for-network-TV department, well, someone from Arabia should do something along the lines of Chris Rock's bit: "I love Arabs, but I hate sand . . . "

(I'm evil today.)

#34 Joshua
Will you please stop spamming the threads with that link? If it is "ignored" why are you linking to Fox News?

#28 Target Practice -

From your linked article:

Witnesses also heard the roar of F-16 fighter jets breaking the sound barrier over Gaza.

Blithering media idiots. It's a "boom", not a "roar".

Joshua (#34)

The first link is Fox News Top Stories. How can you say it's being ignored by the media?

#24 (Rob G) - look at it this way: they probably think they are doing a great job because they at least MENTIONED, the attack on the uh, can't say terrori...
Arab leader. That's whats so goddamn disgraceful. As biased as the NYT is (so what's new?) my memory is that they at least used to get the right story. Of course, my memory isn't what it used to be.

...wish I could take those asshole photographers to meet a few people and see a few things that would really bring tears to their eyes.

Of course most sadly the world is not in the mood to see or hear the truth. (again)

Remind you of another time?

If you all liked this, you'll love the soon to be released major motion picture, Alec Baldwin as "THE PALESTINIAN," the story of Yassuf, whose family was expelled from their farm near Haifa in 1948, and who is torn between sending his disaffected West Bank militant son Abu Takim (played by Johnny Depp) to enter a film studies program at Brown Universityor become the suicide bomber martyr he wants to be. The producers have approached Susan Sarandon to portray the mother, who cries a lot too. Industry insiders who have had a look at the script say: "It'll blow your two thumbs away."

Check out the name of the first guy here!

Zulubaby (#35) thanks for that link - first real smile I've had today!!

The photo is very nice, it shows how the matrix (that is, the mass media) works.

And congratulations to Israel for the good target practice.

And I am sorry for the kid, but it is not Israel's fault if terrorists hide among the civilians. These are the consequences of declaring a genocidal war against Israel.
I hold all the paleostinians jihadopigs and all their leftist supporters accountable for these tragedies.

#24 Rob G: Awesome catch. That's absolutely disgusting and corrupt.

I'm disapointed that today's strike did not result in a car swarm.

Just a car swirl around.

#44 Jerry S

Thatnks for the cheap laugh

You can't make this up. . . .

Yes, but it I only found it on their website after searching because I was prompted to by the blogger. I watch Foxnews a lot, I haven't seen it on their ticker once, nor has their been one story about it, not all day Wednesday (I work Wednesday night not day), not any morning or evening, nor on any other news channel Iwatch nor on any newspaper I have read.

But don't worry about my attempt to get someone to talk about it, you wont see my post here for a long time again, and I think Ill start keeping my money to myself to. I can find other ways to contribute to the world.

Peace

with all the leftover glycerine from the bombs that are the Palestinians chief export, it's no wonder we always see so many pictures of elderly Palestinian women crying on cue.

#50 Joshua

Waaa!

Look at this picture. Is that a person or a bot?

#43 Iron Fist

Sure, they could be more blatantly biased. They could change the name of their publication to Der Sturmer. They could also be wearing their black uniforms, with their little red armbands.

Good point. Course, the last time I'd seen this much media white-washing and blatant bias, I was watching black and white news reels from the 1930s. And it was hard to understand what was going on, as the narration was in German.

Is that a bomb vest under her right arm ?

Maybe we could post all the car swarm photos under the heading "Ariel Sharon Hates You". (ala Cliff Y.)

torn between...enter[ing] a film studies program at Brown University or becom[ing] the suicide bomber martyr he wants to be

Hmmm.

If those were the only choices, I think I'd choose the latter, too.

#53 (Aulubaby) - It's Alec Baldwin but I still can't answer your question!

#52 andrew
Yeah, he had to search really hard, it's on the home page of Fox News...

andrew (#52)

LOL. Really!

#42 observer

The Palestinian:

You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll ululate!

"The complex moral nuances of Palestinian life --which the West has yet to grasp and appreciate-- are presented here in tortured joy and sadistic pathos" --AFP

"The love scenes between Sarandon and Baldwin are some of the most explosive ever on screen!" --Sixty Second Preview

"I doubt that the Jewish media in America will release this one" --Al-Jazeera

"I am shocked and appalled!" --Bart Simpson

Give us a kiss!

OT - make that Zulubaby (don't type well when laughing which I was still doing after seeing that photo link).

. 'Is that a junior shaheed-in-training in the left foreground? Can we get him in the shot? Ma'am, can you tell him to tug on your burka? That's it ! Okay, wait ... the kid's not crying. Ma'am can you give the kid a slap? That's it ... hold it ... say "naqba!" ... CLICK ... beautiful ... that's the shot ... okay who's next?'
/// AP Photo

#53 zulubaby

An armed Palestinian of Hamas militant group's military wing marches with an anti-tank missile as he attends the funeral of Adel Abu Shuka in Bureij refugee camp in Gaza Strip (news - web sites) February 6,2004. Abu Shuka, 36, a leader of Hamas militant group's military wing was killed on Thursday night by an explosion that rocked his home in Gaza Strip refugee camp, medical and witnesses said.

"Hamas militant group's military wing"? (Brought to you by the fine folks in the Department of Redundancy Department.)

"marches with an anti-tank missile"?

Quite possibly the stupidest caption I've ever read.

Classic double-speak (thousand palestinians and Israelis), this means two Isrealis and 998 paleos in fiske talk. By the way, is it always the same over-weight hag who does the photo shoots? Just asking.

re: #24

Now the NYT has changed the headline. It now says "Israeli Attack on Militants Also Kills Boy". Of course, they still use the term "militant" and have to state that a boy was killed (as if it is only in Israeli military actions that there is collateral damage).

RG

#35 Zulubaby

I just finished the story before I got here. Unbelievable...well, not actually.

I wonder if these guys were told that in order to get the 5 mill. you actually have to bring in the guys that did it and actually have a fair trial with lawyers and everything.

What, what a trial? What, what lawyers and everything?
We are be blackmailed for this justice.

By the way, is that 5 million cash, check or visa?

Zulubaby -

Wow, that's the biggest Butt Plug I've ever seen! ;)

I'd rather give him a feeding tube.

Thom (#64)

LOL, I think somebody was in a frenzy of Palestinian Love while typing that caption. The media is made up of scum, I can't stand it.

Look at this one: nobody's "chanting slogans", curiously. Perhaps because while they're trying to blame Israel for the death of this Nasser Abu Shoka, they know that he blew himself up in a "work accident".

re:#66

The link is NY Times article

Thom -

A photo caption in the NY Times a few years back referred to several pieces of self-propelled artillery as "tanks".

Hamas' militant wing

As opposed to their public relations wing.

ah, memories...

Over a year ago Charles posted a series of photos showing Palis carrying the flag-drapped body of a victime of the IDF on a litter.

The next photo(s) show them accidently dropping the litter, dumping the body on the ground

The following photos show the 'victim' getting up off the ground and climbing back on the litter.

#68 Frank IBC LMAO!! But you need one that big for such a huge as.. um, anus!

stevieboy (#67)

I hope the photographers get their cut of the reward money. I refuse to believe that the US will actually fall for this crap. How dumb do they actually think we are? We're not all from Reuters and the AP, you know.

Check out the graffiti on the wall behing the Oscar-winning Kleenex spokesmodel:

in English for the foreign press ...

"Stop Kill the Palestinan People"

but in Arabic for the Arab audience...

"Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade"

Zulubaby,

I was wondering if you knew about http://labs.google.com/

Ms. Andi (#48),

I'm disapointed that today's strike did not result in a car swarm.

Just a car swirl around.

You'll notice at least a dozen palestinian "policemen" in that pic. I think they're concerned about the really bad press they were getting from the car swarm pictures.

OT...

Algore Backs Dean, Algore Jr. Sticks With Pot

#71 Rob G

It looks like there are 2 versions of the story:

1) The one linked in #24 has the by line:

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: February 7, 2004
Filed at 10:32 a.m. ET

2) The second version is by Quag Mire

By GREG MYRE
Published: February 8, 2004

Which is quite a trick, because last time I checked, today is Feb 7.

It is one of the pillars of islam that one must always lie to the infidels.

This should surprise no one.

Rob G (#66)

I've still got the link with the original headline:

Israeli Air Strike Kills 12-Year-Old Boy

Here's the revised headline:

Israeli Attack on Militants Also Kills Boy

Thom's all over it today!

Attaboid (#77)

I didn't but what in particular should I know about that?

Tony -

On what part of the wall is "al-Aqsa Martyrs" written? I can read Arabic when it's printed, but graffiti is not quite as easy for me to read.

#84 Zulubaby,

Google Glossary for one. Just mentioning because you seem to be the resident Google expert.

Geepers #78

Yeah, you're probably right. I don't really understand the concept behind blue camouflage. I guess it's the only way people will know they are "cops."

Look at how the graffiti is written: Stop kill(ing) the Palestin(ian) People

This must be for one of two reasons: Either bad English, presuming a Palestinian actually wrote it. Or the words were spray-painted on the wall specifically for the photographs, and the last parts of those words would have been cropped from the photos anyway.

I wish we had photographers and reporters covering the photographers and reporters covering the West Bank.

#80 Thom
#83 zulubaby

Thank for the information. I was so outraged by the original headline that I hadn't even noticed that the two articles were different. The main page on the NYT website only links to the second article, now.

RG

-Could you try to look a little more oppressed?

-Oh, come on, you can do better than that!

-Make like you just lost your son. Ok, forget that. Make like you just lost your house.

-You call those tears? Where's the damn makeup guy?

It would be funny if the graffiti "artists" got the languages mixed up and wrote "all we want is peace" in Arabic, and "Itbach al-Yahud" in English.

#75 Zulubaby

No I doubt the US will actually believe it. I think they are sitting around with a lot of money going "watch, watch offer a few mill and see what happens"...then they laugh like hell. When they are through laughing, the next guy goes...offer a few mill for Elvis, then laugh like heck watching as a few Palis actually go running around trying to find someone they can pass off for him.

On the serious side, it should be an outrage that we have to offer anything for "justice".

It is not news to LGF'ers that the news media is biased, but it is Israel's fault. As your previous thread illustarted, the Western Press swallowed the Arab's swimming story whole. Thus thread is yet another example of bias and false reporting. The BBC has been exposed over the Gilligan affair. But Israel is doing nothing to remedy the situation.

Quite simply, Israel should give every news channel, paper or agency 3 days to carry a front page/lead item stating exactly what Israel mandates.

" We (CNN etc.) were hoodwinked into carrying a story about the Arab swimmer. We admit to being guilty of inaccurate reporting and unfair bias etc."

Any media which fails to carry such a message, should be banned from reporting from Israel, and their reporters, contributors etc, should be declared as enemy operatives and targeted as such.

Will it happen. No, so more innocents will die.

Attaboid (#86)

Thanks, I didn't know about any of those features but they look pretty cool. I'm definitely not the Google expert, that's always been ploome :-)

It is not news to LGF'ers that the news media is biased, but it is Israel's fault.

What isn't Israel's fault?

* 95 Zulubaby

The current plight of the "Palestinian" Arabs

#24 Rob G

That got me so mad I had to write to the NYT. Here's what I sent them:

Your article about Israel's strike on a terrorist (yes, that's what they're called in the real world, despite all the work you're doing to change peoples' minds to parallel your far-left insanity) is headlined "Israeli Air Strike Kills 12-Year-Old Boy".

It is just one more example of the disgusting and appalling agenda-driven "reporting" your rag has become famous for these days.

An honest reporter, writer, editor-- whatever-- would headline the intentional strike on a member of a known and well-established group of murderers of innocents, with the unfortunate side effect of a civilian's loss of life.

Only in your twisted community of ultra-liberals (along with, of course, Muslim fanatics that want to destroy civilization) is Israel the criminal and vicious Muslim killers the honorable victims of unwitting circumstance.

stevieboy (#92)

I agree, it is an outrage, and it's amazing how quickly they hopped to it when 5 million carrots were dangled in front of them. What I don't understand is why the US doesn't send their own investigators there, the FBI or something. I certainly wouldn't trust the Palestinians to investigate this. I'm curious to see how the US responds to these phony arrests. Those four guys probably don't know what the hell is going on but they'll be taken out back and shot before they can open their mouths to reporters. For the Palestinians, their poisonous lies need to be protected at all costs.

Now the NYT has changed the headline. It now says "Israeli Attack on Militants Also Kills Boy". Of course, they still use the term "militant" and have to state that a boy was killed (as if it is only in Israeli military actions that there is collateral damage).

Actually you're wrong.

There's no such thing as collateral damage when the Palestinians attack Israeli citizens by choice. There's nothing accidental about their targeting; that's what terrorists do.

Glad to see the NYT get it's head out of it's ass on that headline, though.

When war criminals surround themselves with citizens, citizens die. They're treating the entire palestinian population as a group of human shields. That's why we need more photos of these leaders, alive, surrounded by little kids, to show what sort of anti-human monsters they are.

And for the record, "collateral damage" sucks. A 12-year-old boy is still a 12-year-old boy, Israeli or Palestinian. And I blame the Palestinians -- not just Hamas -- for his death.

If Israel wants to build a wall in the middle of Israel, then it is nobody's fricking business but Israelis'. The Arab squatters have no say in what the owner does with his land. They should just be grateful Israel hasn't deported them all to the Palestinian State of Jordan.

Aieeeh, chihuahua! 95 comments already! I was watching to see what Charles would put up this morning and had to go to the kitchen for a few minutes and while my back was turned you guys descended like a cloud of locusts on this thread. Yiiikes!

This poor lady in the picture looks like she's been cornered by the rabid photojournalists. I think if I was her I'd perform too just to give them something so they'd go away and leave me alone. What a pack of wild dogs!

Ms. Andi (#87),

What kind of missiles are they using for these attacks? That car hardy looks damaged.

As much as we all love a good car swarm, I wish these cars would look more like this after an IAF strike.

Zulubaby,

"What isn't Israel's fault?"

sad laugh..

I've seen various Israeli ambassadors on various european channels trying to set the record straight (i.e. Jennin), and being verbally attacked by the interviewing journalists, not being allowed to finish their sentence, their explanations being ignored, etc.. Maybe Ken has a point. What has the media done for Israel lately, anyway?

#93, and in such a case can you imagine the worldwide seething about the "dictatorial behaviour" of Israel and crap like that?

Sadly, Israel's image is FUBAR, and also because Israel herself never cared so much about Public Relations.

The government should devote much more consideration to this subject.

#98 Zulubaby

I would love to see the State Dept demand that one of our agencies be involved in the investigative/trial process...in order for them to collect the 5 mill.

Unfortunately, you are right and this wont happen and the 4 schmucks will be dead by the new moon.

I have no wish to belittle anyone who follows this website, but however important or influential we may not be, someone in a position of influence obviously does take note. For example, after the No.19 bus bombing 10 days ago, within a short time, Charles linked to that horrendous video.

It was quickly suggested on this site that the film be shown widely, and indeed within hours the Israeli Foreign Minsitry site was doing just that.

So perhaps the LGF audience is wider than we think.

I Hope so

#102 Geepers

Ooooh, that was a great shot. A strike like that would cause a pavement swarm which would be more amusing. Yeeehaw!

zorkmidden (#103)

While Ken does have a point, and a lovely point at that, it's unrealistic to think that Israel will gag the press. It's not Saudi Arabia, after all. Whatever Israel does is not enough or too much, there's just no way of keeping everybody (anybody?) happy. She's criticized no matter what she does.

In #93 Ken wrote:

Any media which fails to carry such a message, should be banned from reporting from Israel, and their reporters, contributors etc, should be declared as enemy operatives and targeted as such.

How would Israel get away with doing that, and is that what we really want? Having said that, I really wish Israel would pay more attention to PR, it is a very important issue and Israel is most definitely losing the media war.

#97   Let's Roll  

Well said.

It's truly a tragedy that the Oscar nominations have already been announced for this year. How could the Academy have overlooked this woman's performance? The leading Palestinian actress -- snubbed as usual. How could this happen? Oh, that's right -- the Jews control Hollywood. Jews, we warn you: stop your repression of the Palestinian Actors' Guild!

# 108 You are probably right in that Israel will not do it.

But if it is the right thing to so, then it should be done.

I cannot see why Israel should not ban people who can be proven to have deliberately lied about Israel. The US had no compunction about restricting press freedom during its war in Iraq, there has been a war declared against Israel.

Ken (#111)

The US had no compunction about restricting press freedom during its war in Iraq, there has been a war declared against Israel.

Is that true? I didn't know that. If a country can actually do that then I'm all for it!

Zulubaby,

You're right, of course. I'm just so frustrated by the injustice. How about suing the media if they don't retract a false story, or if they're not equal and fair in their presentation?

# 112 Zulubaby.

That was the whole point of having "embedded" reporting.

I just had to go back and flip the slideshow that goes with this pic...I really like the one with the Pali picking up a piece of the car's remains with a tweezer and putting it in a baggie for evidence.

I wonder if he can figure out who did it?

Hasn't the pali swimmer story become an urban legend? Someone should notify snopes and other urban legend sites.

Ms. Andi (#107),

Yeah, I'd love to see the little bastards crawling around on the pavement looking for burnt chips of bone to take home as their martyr relics.

P.A. Arabs Less Attached To Land Than Was Thought

A public opinion survey taken in the Palestinian Authority shows that fully 37% of the population would agree to leave their "homeland" in exchange for material benefits.

A public opinion survey taken in the Palestinian Authority shows that fully 37% of the population would agree to leave their "homeland" in exchange for material benefits.

The 705 respondents of the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion (PCPO) poll were asked, "If you were to receive a job offer, a home, and $250,000, would you be willing to emigrate to a foreign country?" Just a tad over half said no, while 37% said yes, they would be willing to leave under such circumstances.

Of those who would leave, not even a quarter would choose an Arab nation, while 60% would choose Europe or an English-speaking country.

#102 Geepers,

That's the result of a Hellfire missile. The IDF won't use them because they cause far too much collateral damage.

Not that I don't agree with you...

#118 If the US can sort Iraq out, and it becomes a prosperous and free country, there will be no "Palestinian" problem, as many will go home.

#102 Geepers
That was a Hellfire missile. Israel doesn't use them on targets like this because of all the bystanders that would get killed.

#120 Ken

Huh?

In an effort to acheive greater authenticity, the photographers then instructed her to grab her crotch, bear a breast, and lip sync Pink Floyd's "The Wall" with the little boy on the right.

# 122 Andrew

The vast majority of "Palestinians" are descended from Arab migrants who flocked to what is now Israel as a result of economic opportunity. If economic opportunity is offered in Iraq, and free handouts ended in Israel, they will go to Iraq.

"Photo Op" - suitable for framing.
Kinda goes along with the entire concept of "Palestine": phony, made up, illegitimate, and bogus to the core; with the only purpose being that which the Roman inventors intended it for in ancient times - extermination of the Jews.

Stop Kill the Palestine People

Hmm..

I think you guys are getting this all wrong. The message is clearly that by building the wall and exclusively targeting terrorist leaders, the IDF is not doing its job. Clearly the artistes want them to kill more civilians.

Is UN involvement in Iraq a desirable thing?

A cautionary tale ...

UN's Cambodian 'success' in question

More than a decade ago, the United Nations helped restore democracy in war-ravaged Cambodia. That achievement, however, has been shown to be less than it seemed at the time, as the very safeguards imposed by the UN on the country's constitution have ensured electoral deadlock and a non-functioning government.

#114 Ken

Freedom of the press means that the press can print whatever they want. It does NOT mean that they have any right to information.

What will the men of her family say when they see her surrounded by all these strange men?

She's up the brown creek, if you ask me.

By the way, today is LGF Meetup day:
[Link: lgf.meetup.com...]

Is any city actually getting these Meetups held? New York, anybody? I live in one of the larger cities, yet our Meetup has never taken place due to a lack of participants.

If anyone has a Meetup today for LGF, please report back. Thanks!

Spiny Norman (#119), Engineer (#121),

Sure, a Hellfire is an anti-tank missile, but it would end the missed target attacks, like last year, when the bystanders were killed and the perp ran off with a hurt wrist. When you play, play to win.

The palestinians are blood thirsty savages, they ain't stupid. Start using Hellfires and ain't nobody gonna be hangin' too close to their Hamas buddies.

# 129 Engineer

Right, And a country has the right to permit who it wishes to enter. Or not

#133 Ken

Right, And a country has the right to permit who it wishes to enter. Or not

Which is why palestinians won't be moving to Iraq enmasse, regardless of Iraq's improving economic climate.

OT. Multi-lateralism in action:)

Clark told the historian that he chafed during the war at having to submit individual bombing targets to the White House and the French government for approval. He said Clinton reviewed them directly, apparently because of embarrassment over the U.S. military's 1998 bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. He also quoted a deputy French defense minister as acknowledging that Paris rejected some of his target choices simply for the sake of "saying no."

One of the scariest pictures I've ever seen--fascism in action.

Andrew, Iraq does not appear to have any restrictions on who may enter. Witness Sisani, an Iranian, who appears on his way to becoming the de facto ruler of Iraq.

And the award for best crying on cue goes to ---

Farciscal Shaheedmom

ANTISEMITISM IN NYC!!!

Have you read the story in today's NYT about the antisemitic jeers directed at a Jewish basketball player from Dalton School (very preppy private school) during a game at Trinity School (on the upper West Side yet)?

Several Trinity students taunted him with cracks about gefillte fish etc--other kids giggled and parents (all from Trinity School) sat by silently.

A parent from Dalton, who was seated with his son on the Trinity side, wrote a letter to head of Trinity--it got out on the web, the Headmaster of Trinity apologised and they are doing the usual "sensitivity training" BS.

This in the heart of Hymietown!

bigel--a cruise missile, with conventional warhead, to a certain Upper west Side address, please.

Kidding aside--flame has been lit here too, driven primarily by the ME coverage. Under the guise of "criticising Israel's policies," it is becoming easier and easier to unload the darker hatred underneath.

OT:

After trying the military, lobbying, and politics, Wesley Clark gets some use out of that Tattoo school diploma.

85 Frank IBC

Tony,

On what part of the wall is "al-Aqsa Martyrs" written? I can read Arabic when it's printed, but graffiti is not quite as easy for me to read.

Its to the right of the English writing. Transliterating, the text is [I'll include letters croped out of the photo in brakets]:

[Kat]aaib shuhadaa

[al a]qsa (followed by possibly "wa firqat" ("and the group of"))

Yes the handwriting is bad, so this is the best I can make out.

@127 nbdysbu

"Stop Kill the Palestine People"

Stop, Kill the Palestine People...since that is on the opposite side of the security fence, are they actually admitting the Jews are the true Palestine people? :)

Daniel Pipes in on CSPAN2 right now

500 quatloos for someone who can find a photo that one of those photographers are taking.

I'd like to use both in my class when I talk about propaganda.

Everybody knows that the media has a right wing bias. That famous conservative, Eric Alterman tells all.

What Liberal Media? The Truth About Bias and the News

Can any of our French minions explain what the hell Chirac means with this quip:

M Chirac is a great champion of the decent baguette and has called the bad supermarket knock-offs "not even a Christian food".

Baguette war as pride of Paris takes on the supermarkets

Holy Sh#t:

Hundreds Resign En-Masse from Arafat's Fatah Group

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - More than 300 members of President Yasser Arafat's ruling Fatah movement resigned collectively from the Palestinian group on Saturday in protest against internal strife and a lack of reform, a statement said.

SoCalJustice (#147)

From that link:

Arafat was expected to discuss the resignations in a leadership meeting he was to chair in his battered headquarters in the West Bank city of Ramallah later on Saturday, Fatah officials said.

Oh boo hoo.

OT:

Late afternoon yesterday, I watched the movie "The Rentless". It was breath taking. I hope they rerun it, as I would like to view it again. So stark in its' honesty and brevity. How could it not reach out and touch the hearts of any kufr?
If I can find a link to a website where it's supported I would love to email it to my family in England.

On Tuesday after leaving the VA hospital with my husband,
we stopped for a coke. Outside was two homeless men.
One was asleep standing up, bent over a paper vending machine. The other was sitting on the pavement smoking a cigarette. My heart broke for them both. I don't have any idea how they came to be in their situation, but the night before was extremely cold for anyone to be out in without shelter. I bought them something to eat, the guy that was smoking the cigarette was shocked. I can still see the look in his eyes when I handed him the food.
There but for the grace of G-d go I.
Being that close to the VA I suspect they may be homeless veterans.

#147 SoCalJustice

I think I'll wait until after the news conference where Arafat blames it on Israel and how it shows the resolve of the oppressed Palestinian People to embrace a doctrine of peace and love for all people.

But I would love to see the Palis. orgs disintingrate and just beat the livin' sh@t out of each other.

I wonder why this woman is crying. Maybe she had a fight with her husband. Maybe she's afraid of the vultures surrounding her. The bias in this photograph and the caption are simply breathtaking. I can't get over it.

#142 Quark2

Well, considering Israel was renamed Palestine thousands of years ago by the Romans(?), that could technically be true.

since that is on the opposite side of the security fence, are they actually admitting the Jews are the true Palestine people?

Now that I think of it, it must be an operation by Mossad.

/beeb tinfoil

#24 Rob G

It's disgraceful how the NYT slants the news to fit their agenda.

HEAR! HEAR!

#146 Geepers

From the other thread

Try this one.

For those interested, I have some comments on this photograph on my blog. (If you're not, I wouldn't blame you.)

#93 Ken

Any media which fails to carry such a message, should be banned from reporting from Israel, and their reporters, contributors etc, should be declared as enemy operatives and targeted as such.

It's ironic, isn't it, that Jews are always alleged to control the world's media, but Israel is subjected to the most biased press, bar none. I agree with you that drastic measures need to be taken and, if retractions and corrections aren't given to stories that have been proven false, that news organization should be banned from Israel for three months the first time, a year the next, and ten years if it happens a third time. I don't see a downside to the policy-- sure the press would berate Israel and complain of censorship if this happened, but is that worse than the lies pushed now?

OT:
US soccer team hears "Osama" chants in Mexico.

Right Wing Conspirator (#156),

Nice pic of Laura, but why is Chelsea in that picture too? ;-)

#147 SoCalJustice - from your link:

"I am worried this expression of anger could expand and get out of control if the leadership does not treat it right. The only solution is to carry out democratic reforms and hold elections," Sheikh told Reuters. "It is time for change on a democratic basis."

Just who does this guy think will believe this? Oh, I see it is a Reuters story.

#146 Geepers

If not, try this or this or this or this or these.

If that doesn't work. I feel sorry for ya. ;-)

Geepers.

That is just plain mean.

To the dog.

Different headlines for the same news --
The news headline online by AP:
Israeli Airstrike Kills Militant Leader
[Link: customwire.ap.org...]

The same news online with headline by foxnews:
Israeli Airstrike Kills Islamic Militant
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The same news online with headline by cnn:
Sources: 2 dead in Israeli strike
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

The same news online with headline by Jerusalem Post:
Islamic Jihad leader, bystander killed in Gaza strike
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

The same news online with headline by Haaretz
Islamic Jihad militant, Palestinian boy killed in IAF strike in Gaza City
[Link: www.haaretzdaily.com...]

The same news online with headline by the Gray Lady that proclaims that she publishes "All the News That's Fit to Print" :
Israeli Air Strike Kills Boy in Gaza
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
From this you can understand what headline news is unfit to print in the New York Times.
Unfit to print: Islamic Jihad leader was hit in that strike.
Unfit to print: There was a military target for that strike.
Unfit to print: The death of a bystander was collateral damage, not a targeted killing.
The anti-Israel bigot at the New York Times who wrote that headline filters and distorts the news, so that those readers who skim headlines and don't read the actual full reported story get a wrong picture of what actually happened.

There is a court of public opinion. The NY Times presides over their section of that court, like a judge who permits evidence from one side of a case, and does not allow evidence to be presented from the other side of the case. At the NY Times, the court of public opinion is a kangaroo court.

This is no accident IMO. I find that the headline writers at the NY Times are able to take a story and put a special spin on it that expresses their anti-Israel bigotry.

The greatest bias that I can recall is with the headline writers there, the ones who write a brief summary of the news, as well as those who select what pictures to show. In other words, the greatest rot there is at the top, with the editors of that misleading paper.

Right Wing Conspirator (#159),

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

#99 just a guy:

You are absolutely correct.

However, just for the record, when I mentioned "Israeli military actions", this was meant to be in contrast to the military actions of other nations, and not in contrast to Arab terrorism (where, as you say, there is no such thing as collateral damage - I agree with you completely).

RG

Rob G #24
You found this travesty of headline distortion at the NY Times first.

She's ready for her closeup, Mr. DeMille.

If you look closely, she's holding a picture of Elvis Presley printed on what appears to be black velvet...

#100 Its Jake

If Israel wants to build a wall in the middle of Israel, then it is nobody's fricking business but Israelis'. The Arab squatters have no say in what the owner does with his land. They should just be grateful Israel hasn't deported them all to the Palestinian State of Jordan.

Oh sure! You want to take all the fun out of it for the Pali's, the AP , REUTERS, GANNETT, the NYT, the DNC and (more tellingly)the DLC.

Just remember, you're denying so many fine people their livelyhoods by citing the obvious; you can't stir up the ignorant masses if you don't blur some lines here.

Lets tighten it up soldier (eh, so to speak).

efc

#162 Geepers

Pfft. Why stop with the 8x10 when you can have the 20x24.

#142 Tony -

Thanks! I realized that I was spelling "Aqsa" wrong - I thought the "s" was a "sin" rather than a "sad". Also I forgot about the "alif maqsura" at the end.

And I'm clueless about any ligature (compound letter) other than "lamalif".

Right Wing Conspirator (#168),

Oh sure, get my hopes up, only to find this:

Sorry, this product is no longer available

Damn you RWC!

[shakes fist]

;-)

I just love this part:

Around a thousand Israeli and Palestinians rallied against the controversial security barrier that is meant, according to Israel, to keep suicide bombers out.

what the @@@ do they mean "that is meant to keep suicide bombers out?" No Israel really wants to let suicide bombers in. Also what is with all the graffiti in English?

#170 Geepers

Sorry 'bout that. Didn't notice until I had already posted.

just got done working on a beautiful saturday. It is F'ing Miller time.

#152 nbdysfu

#142 Quark2

Well, considering Israel was renamed Palestine thousands of years ago by the Romans(?), that could technically be true.

Romans renaimed only Judea as Palaestina in the II century AD, not all "Israel", so indeed the Jews are the only ones that are factually and historically true Palestinians, because obviously if Judea=Palaestina => Jew=Palestinian.

Palestina as applied to all of Israel developed much later through cartographic errors in piligrim charts when the mix up occurred a between the area known as the Holy Land aka Israel and Palestina, aka Judea (according to Bernard Lewis).

OT: Brigitte Accuses Pakistani Living in Sydney of Planning Terror Against Australian Military
OT: Egypt: Play Mocks American Troops in Iraq

"This play tries to show the real aim of the war and American occupation of Iraq, which is not to establish democracy but to control the oil wealth of this country and the entire Arab world" - Khalid al-Sawi, Playwright and actor

OT: Saudi Forces Lift Siege at Mosque
OT: Lebanon: Father of 14 Buys Satellite to Screen Out "Pornographic" Shows

“Such programs offend morals and I don’t want to let the devil into my house,”

OT: Hizbullah & Amal Fight at Lebanon U.

Hamdan stabbed the Hizbullah student in the neck with a knife or pen. Immediately afterwards, the student said, another student belonging to the Amal Movement tried to throw Sultan ­ another student belonging to Hizbullah ­ from a balcony on the second floor.

OT: British MP Kaufman Calls for Sanctions Against Israel
OT: Saudi Arabia: Women Drivers Burn Rubber in Remote Desert

Their only fear, the paper noted, was for a genie commonly known as Al-Da idi which causes whoever listens to it to lose the way.

OT

Open Question to any practitioners of Judaism.

My husband an I have some very good friends who are Jewish.
They have recently embraced the study and practice of the Kabbalah.
What does the mainstream Judaism, the Torah and/or the Talmud have to say regarding the teaching and doctrine of the Kabbalah?
The material they have given us does not appear to be in keeping with the Old Testament.
Perhaps we are missing something or are uninformed.

Any links to additional info, would be much appreciated ...

Thanx.
Fiery Celt

#166

nice work cross-referencing the various media outlet headline changes. However, I believe the NYT article is just reprinting an Associated Press original... written by our trustworthy AP reporter, Ibrahim Barzak (suprise suprise).

Israeli Air Strike Kills 12-Year-Old Boy

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - An Israeli helicopter gunship attacked a car carrying members of the Islamic Jihad on a busy Gaza City street on Saturday, killing a 12-year-old boy and wounding 10 people, according to the military and witnesses.

Thom, I didn't see the picture, but perhaps he was marching with a wire-guided anti-tank weapon like a TOW, which would qualify as a missile. Of course, odds are good it is an RPG, but I'd need to see the picture.

OT, but the NASCAR NEXTEL CUP seaon starts with the Great American Race, the Daytona 500, next Sunday, but tonight the first of the pre-season activities to be televised is on at 6:30 pm CST (0030 Z) as Jeremy Mayfield in the #19 Evernham Motorsports Dodge Dealers Dodge Intrepid leads the way to the pole for the Bud Shootout on TNT

Fiery Celt-

No clue, but its good to see you showing up with more frequency.

Didn't Madonna have a 2 week Kabbalah phase?

What you see going on here HAS BEEN going on for some 25 or so years. At time point little mistakes like this showed up and I began to realize that something NOT KOSHER was going on in the Pal Israeli Issue.

Its a drip drip drip of bad PR for Israel instituted BY the PRESS. Some American and Lots of European Press.
And it worked. We now have a Palestinian State to be formed in the near future. A State that is Terrorist in Nature, that the Arabs THEMSELVES are terrified of and INTEND TO TAKE OVER...(like Lebanon). The intention was to portray Jews in the worst way and keep doing it till a significant # of Americans had questions about the validity of siding with Israel. We already know Europeans were PREDISPOSED to siding with anyone BUT Jews.

Whats ANOTHER name for "Conspiracy" to get rid of Israel? (either get rid of Israel or cripple it by reducing it to such a small size that it is hardly viable..just a Jewish State in name only) Ought to come up with another term for it..but that IS what is happeniing..Ck John Loftus and see what HE thinks on the subject of the SECRET War Against the Jews. Hes seen it FIRST HAND.

Parallels with the International Press in the run up and during WW2. In those days they did their damage by pretending they didnt know what they knew..and made sure what they knew either didnt get published or made it on the ***40th page of the paper.

#177 Ed Moran: abu Russian Orthodox Groundhog Day

It was an RPG. Why can't you see the pic?

Fiery Celt:

I'm not Jewish, but one thing I can tell you is that these days there is more than one kind of Qabalah - there is the genuine article, and then there is Madonna's "Kabbalah", as practiced by the so-called "Kabbalah Center".

This starts with my #146 in that thread; there is more in #166 by BostonBound, my #177 and my #226

#175

To learn about Kaballah go to [Link: www.aish.com...] or [Link: www.chabad.org...] There is tons of silly stuff out there about Kaballah but these sites are authentic. The Torah (Old Testament) must be read with the commentaries of the sages: Nachmanides, Maimonides, Rashi, etc. There are also kaballistic interpretations/commentaries of the Torah. It (the Bible) is not meant to be read literally. Aish and Chabad have an enormous wealth of information. As someone who grew up in reform, "enlightened" basically secular Judaism, these web sites and the study of kaballah have given me a new appreciation of Judaism. Hope this helps.

#131 - Joshua - I just signed up for Meet Up in New York City, but dont know ANYTHING about time, date or location for lgf meetups today or any other date. Frankly, if you didn't post #131, I wouldn't even know that there are meet ups scheduled (assuming there are!)
BTQ are you "just" Joshua or Joshua Scholar?

180 Because I didn't read your post thoroughly and see that ZB's post had a pic link

/sheepish mode

Brainstorm. I know how to end all the violence in the "Occupied Territories".

Ban the importation of ski masks, and have an IDF plane drop thousands of wool eating moths.

Occasional Reader:

From the old thread I linked to in #181:

I loved your quote from Lileks, describing Madonna -

Dim comet orbiting around an indifferent sun

#175 fiery celt

As far as I know, there isn't any conflict between mainstream Judaism and Kabbalah. It's just that many consider Kabbalah so esoteric, so difficult for the average person to get his/her head around, that it is recommended for study by only the most intelligent and well-versed of Torah scholars. I don't think Madonna or Roseanne Barr qualify on either count.

#176

That story about the 12-year-old Palestinians boy has been the lead story on CBC radio's hourly newscasts all day--combination of a slow news day and the CEEB's blatant anti-Israeli bias.

My heart bleeds.

N*O*T

Are there enough reporters or photogarphers there?

Whose that knucklef*k with the backwards cap?
I'll bet his brain is connected backwards too.

#175: fiery celt

[Link: www.aish.com...]

The Palestinian Media Circus is back in town.

Didn't Madonna's version of Kaballah involve nudity?

If she hadn't gotten into it fifteen years earlier, who knows?*

* Disclaimer. I have seen the Penthouse/Playboy nudie pics of Slutdonna Madonna from the early 80s, and even ignoring the ample armpit and nipple hair, you still had nether region hair in a line to the navel

@182 ex-liberal

Who authorized not reading the Bible literally?

I don't think our Creator was/is in the business of allusions,
insinuations, mind games or illusions.
He pretty much meant what He said.

scaramouche, Frank IBC, Ed Moran, Ex-Lib...et al.

Thanx again.

I think they have embraced the occultist/new age version of the Kabbalah,
They gave us a book,
The 72 names of G-D; Technology for the Soul with a deck of "meditation" cards".

Seemed a little off to me.

Besides, I thought we were not to know the name of G-D...let alone 72 names.

I thought it might be similar to some 'Christian' apostate cults and movements with heretical teachings.

#193 quark2

I didn't really express myself properly - what I meant by "literally" is reading the Written Torah without the Oral Torah (the wisdom of the sages, the Talmud, Kabbalah). The Written Torah requires the Oral Torah.

#194 fiery celt

Soon to be released:

The 72 Names of Those Bored Virgins waiting for Their Martyrs in Elysium

Indeed, we do need Charles to post a new thread. Not that these aren't interesting, but I have not the wherewithal to contribute anything substantial (hence, my lame jokes like the above).

The crocodile weeps. About what? Lost opportunities?

Others condemn the barrier, which dips deep into the West Bank in some areas, as a land grab.

And some condemn the West Bank, which dips deep into Israel in some areas, as a land grab.

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: PhotoShop Opportunity, Anyone?

Anyone care to put an exclamation point after the word "STOP"?

It would change the whole meaning of the lousy English graffiti.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

quark2 #193

Here is a link about the Oral Torah and its relation to the Written Torah:

[Link: www.aish.com...]

#192:

I will no longer eat my dinner while lurking on lgf.

200 Chuck Pelto -

I was thinking the same thing! LOL!

Fiery Celt -

The 72 names of G-D; Technology for the Soul with a deck of "meditation" cards"

I'll bet the "meditation cards" looked an awful lot like the Tarot deck?

The book, on Amazon

The author is Rabbi (as he calls himself) Yehuda Berg, a major figure in The Kabbalah Center, the same one mentioned with regards to Madonna and "Kabbalah Water".

Your nose was correct when it smelled a rat.

#15--f/k/a Bob--Years ago, Angela Davis spoke at my college. One ofthe students asked her about the Berlin Wall. And that is what she said...workers paradise and the Wall keeps them from breaking in--at least that is what I re-call.

Ed M. -

Didn't Madonna's version of Kaballah involve nudity?

Not yet - just tatooing the name "YH-H" on her arm, a violation of both the Jewish prohibitions on taking G-d's name in vain, and against all forms of tatoos.

Also, winding leather straps around her left arm in the exact same format and style as tefillin are worn by religious Jewish men - and I should add, ONLY religious Jewish men.

To her, religion is just like anything else in her life - a boyfriend, even her own identity - simply another toy to play with for a little while, make a dramatic public statement, then discard when she tires of it and moves on to the next toy.

OT-sort Of. A great video of the issue is available.It is by Dennis Prager and his staff.He spent a couple of weeks or so in Israel in 2003 interviewing victims of suicide bombings some with nails in their brains and the families. It is a tearful film but needs way more attention than I think it gets.Prager speaks Hebrew and talks to a whole bunch of people in Jerusalem area. It fits this topic as counterpoint to this creatures set-up. And Israel is in need of big time P.R. This video should be on a jumbotron.I think it is at dennisprager.com

As far as I know the Kabbalah is only studied by the most learned of rabbis and is not something that should be taken lightly at all.

Too bad we dont have Excommunication in our Religion or we would throw that so called head of the Kabbalah Center the hell out. He is making a mockery of our beliefs...

Saw Madonna on Larry King with her "Kabbalah-like" crap..so Larry asks her if she is thinking about converting to Judiasm..and she answers in essense..G_d Forbid..yuch..feh ...NO!!!..and besides that she says..Kabbalah isn't just a Jewish thing..its for everyone..GIVE ME A BREAK and a half.

That piece of DRECK, Madonna, needs to keep the hell out of OUR BUSINESS...and we wont have to wait all that long...next year or the year after that she'll find another Group JOIN...

Where's the boiling oil when you need it?

All in all, it's just another tool by the wall.

Frank: Did I understand you to say that Madonna tattooed herself with the Y...h name? Jews do NOT allow tattoos. UNBELIEVABLE! That is sooo disrespectful of Judiasm...There is nothing more to say about it except...smack that womans face right off.

That K. Center isn't Kabbalah...its a Con. Like Zulu says JEWS aren't even to get into K. unless they are full...and serious..scholars of Judaism. And when WE say Scholar...you know what that entails.

What SHE is doing is just a gift to Jew Haters everywhere...

#211 Leah

Jews do NOT allow tattoos.

I didn't know that. Add that to the list of good things Jews do.

I fervently hope that next Madonna takes up the burkha...then we'll know that Islam is going out of style.

Europe's Looney Left will probably insist that the photo was staged using an Israeli women dress as an Arab.

# 200 Chuck Pelto

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: PhotoShop Opportunity, Anyone?

Anyone care to put an exclamation point after the word "STOP"?

It would change the whole meaning of the lousy English graffiti.

You got it

Madonna's career started, 19 years ago, with her wearing a rosary around her neck, an appalling sacrilige to Catholics. But now she's found another religion to play with and desecrate.

Yes, it will be fun to see her do the same with Islam. Maybe she'll even make a video doing a duet with Muhammad. Anyone remember what happened the last time Muhammad appeared on screen? Hint - Washington DC, March 1977.

...Assuming that isn't Madonna in the picture at the top of this page...

#212 Engineer -

And IIRC, piercing is prohibited, too.

#211 Leah -

Yes, sadly, you understood me correctly.

Here's my summary of the article in USA Today from the old thread:

(Note that the gibberish that is not in quotes is the gibberish of the USA Today "journalist", not necessarily the gibberish of Madonna.)

The Jewish mystical tradition predates organized religions and offers a path to fulfillment based on spiritual laws of the universe. Some aspects parallel Judaism. Rather than studying the Talmud, an academic interpretation of Jewish law, Kabbalists embrace the Zohar, a mystical interpretation devised by decoding ancient texts rather than accepting literal accounts.

"Kabbalah helped me understand that there is a bigger picture and that being well-intentioned is great, but if you don't live your life according to the laws of the universe, you bring chaos into your life," she says. "I was raised to believe that the privilege of being American. means you can be whatever you want. But the question is, to what end? What's the point of reaching the top?

Kabbalah, steeped in quantum physics and scientific theory...

"My husband..was totally into Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. He made me question my values as a Christian."

"Kabbalah has nothing to do with organized religion. It's not judgmental. It's a manual for living."

"I'm a speck, an atom," she says. "Everything physical is an illusion, but it's there to guide us or test us or deter us. Our job is to navigate through this world while understanding the only thing that matters is the state of our soul, and that's very hard because I'm in the entertainment business, which is completely based on illusion and physical things. Any success I have is a manifestation of God. It's my ego that wants to claim ownership. It's hubris, arrogance and greed."

In a recent video Madonna has a Holy Name of G-d tattooed onto her right shoulder. Tattooing is of course forbidden by the Torah.

Later in the video we see Madonna winding leather straps around her left arm in the exact same format and style as tefillin are worn by religious Jewish men.

The [so-called] "Kabbalah Center" [scarequotes added]sells bottled "Kabbalah water" — which Madonna swears by. The water, according to the group’s site, is “dynamic ‘living’ water” with “a highly organized structure, crystalline formations and a fractal design.” Kabbalah water, the Center’s Yehuda Berg insists, is a tradition dating back centuries. “We charge the water with positive energy,” he tells the Scoop. “So that it has healing powers,” he says.

#215 Tony Abu Tuz -

So a long flat line with an upside down "v" is the letter "shin"? No wonder I was having so much trouble finding "shuhada" earlier.

#217 Frank

Hi frank, yes, in handwriting the little teeth on the sheen can are left out (replaced with a flat line), just as the two dots in ta ot ya, for example, can be replaced with a dash, or three dots in sheen can be replaced with a ^ (upside down v), all this is done for convenience.

BTW, check out my photoshoping in 215 above. I've added a little arabic grafitti on the wall so you can practice ;)

re the $250K to ship out to another country - how much to get them to go to Antarctica?

j/k

maybe not.

Tony:

Yeah, I noticed on my second look.

"'Ash(?) Sharun", indeed.

It was actually legible, so it stood out like a sore thumb. ;)

In the original, in "shuhada", I what I originally thought was the "shin" turned out to be a very sloppily writen "h" + "d". Also, I was expecting the "figure-8" form of "h" - this one is the "inverse spike + spike" form.

عاش شارون

Tony Abu Tuz-LOL! I especially liked the smiley-face :-)
Too comical.

Frank IBc sez "Long Live Sharon". I agree!

Tony Abu Tuz (#215)

Great job. I like the 'USA' on that guy's cap :-)

Frank IBC,

I suspected that there was something occultist about this form of the Kabbalah.

Nostradamus was supposed to have been a practioner of the Kabbalah (both grandparents were Jewish).
I hadn't thought it had become contaminated by New Ageists beliefs, also.

The same thing is happening the Christian Churches, both Catholic and Protestant.
An infiltration of new age/ occultist beliefs and practices.

Many of these movements originate within the United Nations in the name of multiculturalism, environmentalism and interfaithism

The UN seeks to replace the Ten Commandments with their multicultural version called the Earth Charter which is transported for display in its own "Ark of Hope"...

...No, I am not kidding.

These beliefs are even being promoted by the highest echelons of the Vatican

Fátima to become interfaith shrine

#220-223 Frank evariste

heh heh. There's a few more "subtle" changes in there too with some of the clothing ;-)

LMAO!!! I just spotted the LGF. You rock, Tony!

Give the woman a Neiman Marcus shopping bag or something. What is she carrying?

#228 Zulubaby

What she needs is B U Y A G R A
An injectable stimulant taken prior to shopping. increases potency, duration, and credit limit of spending spree.

Zulu:

I think that's actually a child wearing a baby-splodeydope-in-training headband.

#228 zulubaby

Neiman marcus? who do you think she is, Saeb Arakat? (Have you noticed how dapper that guy is?)

Tony Abu Tuz (#231)

LOL, I feel bad for her, she's crying. Nothing a little shopping won't cure ...

Tony -

Yes, I noticed the "gear" on my third look. Nice touch!

#232 Zulubaby -

LOL! Or maybe chocolate...

Engineer -

Or if not Buyagra, then the Bank of Arafat Visa card.

Fiery Celt -

I have no problem with "ecumenism" per se, but with the left-wing baggage that often comes with it.

While I care for neither the World Council of Churches nor the UN, I think it's a bit of a stretch to imply that they are one and the same.

Re "Kabbalah Center", if these people want to believe what they believe, it's OK with me - my complaints are "trademark violation" - calling themselves "Kabbalah" when they have nothing to do with the real thing; and fraud, as in the case of "Kabbalah Water".

Re #183:

#131 - Joshua - I just signed up for Meet Up in New York City, but dont know ANYTHING about time, date or location for lgf meetups today or any other date. Frankly, if you didn't post #131, I wouldn't even know that there are meet ups scheduled (assuming there are!)
BTQ are you "just" Joshua or Joshua Scholar?

The LGF Meetups are held on the 1st Saturday of each month at 4 p.m. local time -- next will be March 6.

I'm not the person who posts as Joshua Scholar, and not even the same person who posts as Joshua with an hotlink on his name (see #34 above). For LGF purposes, I'm just Joshua.

Palestinian journalists protest Fatah attacks

Alarmed by a rise in the number of attacks on journalists, the Palestinian Journalists' Syndicate and human rights groups have once again appealed to the Palestinian Authority to take stiff measures against perpetrators.

The journalists are also planning a one-day strike later this week to protest against the attacks, all of which have been carried out by Fatah gunmen.

The most recent attacks took place last week in Ramallah and Gaza City. In the first case, three masked Palestinian gunmen carrying AK-47 assault rifles stormed the offices of the Ramallah-based Al-Quds Educational Television.

Assistant manager Haroun Abu Arrah, one of two station employees present at the time, told the Committee for the Protection of Journalists that one of the men demanded that he hand over a tape. When Abu Arrah asked for clarification, the gunmen began beating the two staffers with rifle butts and fists.

Abu Arrah said that after the beating, two of the assailants went into another room and fired several rounds at some of the station's equipment, destroying computer screens and video equipment. Abu Arrah and his colleague managed to escape unharmed.

Now, how can we make this Israel's fault?

Frank IBC,

You said...

While I care for neither the World Council of Churches nor the UN, I think it's a bit of a stretch to imply that they are one and the same.

It is not a bit of a stretch. It's a fact.

Relationship and interrelationship between the World Council of Churches and the United Nations...

From the World Council of Churches website---

For over 50 years, the WCC, through the Commission of the Churches on International Affairs (CCIA), has maintained a constant and active presence at the United Nations. In the early years there were offices in New York (UN Headquarters), London, Geneva (UNHCR and ILO), Paris (UNESCO), and close liaison with Rome (FAO). Today only the Geneva and New York UN Headquarters Liaison Offices remain, though >b>consultative relations have further been established with virtually the whole family of UN-related agencies (UNEP, UNDP, UNCTAD, WHO, etc.)

There's more-

Interrelationship between the the (Earth Charter Website) Earth Charter and the United Nations (UNESCO)

Interrelationship between the United Religions Initiative and (Interfaith website) United Religions Initiative and the United Nations

Networks and Interrelationships of multiple international interfaith organisations and the United Nations including...
-Millennium Peace Summit
[Link: www.millenniumpeacesummit.org...]
-Council for the Parliament of the World's Religions
[Link: www.cpwr.org...]
-International Association for Religious Freedom
[Link: www.iarf.net...]
-International Interfaith Centre
[Link: www.interfaith-center.org...]
-Interfaith Youth Core
[Link: www.ifyc.org...]
-Minorities of Europe
[Link: www.moe-online.com...]
-Peace Council
[Link: www.peacecouncil.org...]
-Temple of Understanding
[Link: www.templeofunderstanding.org...]
-Project towards a Spiritual Forum for World Peace at the United Nations
[Link: www.interfaithstudies.org...]
-United Religions Initiative
[Link: www.uri.org...]
-World Conference on Religions and Peace
[Link: www.wcrp.org...]
-World Congress of Faiths
[Link: www.worldfaiths.org...]
-World Faiths Development Dialogue
[Link: wfdd.org.uk...]
-World Fellowship of Inter-Religious Councils
[Link: www.interfaithstudies.org...]

Check the links, Google the info---
They are all affiliated and associated and share financing with the U.N. in one way or another.

Is that Palestinian refugee brat on the right in the photo wearing Donna Karen? Wsup wit dat?

Hmmm...

The kid in the photo looks kind of like this kid.

OK, I see the "USA" and the "LGF," as well as the added smiley face and the exclamation point. But for those of us who don't read Arabic, what's the added phrase(s) say?

steve miller-It says "long live Sharon", check out Tony Abu Tuz and Frank IBC's discussion above.

Is that an onion the witch is holding?

Ohh and I thought that these photographers were bravely risking life and limb to give a rest of the world just a glimpse of the terrible suffering that Israel inflicts on the peaceful Palestinians.

[/assclown]

Its not that the media show us 1% or 10% of Palestinian suffering. They frigging magnify it tenfold. Why not show some Mexican woman crying in front of the US-Mexico border ?

Although Tom Friedman has evolved into a moonbat, I'll never forget the section of his book which described the result of an Israeli soldier shoving a Palestinian at a checkpoint.

Photographers swarmed and it landed on the front page of every newspaper of the world the next morning.

Firey: It ISNT Kabbalah...its just a phony rip off of little bits of it combined with G-d knows what all...here and there. Frank is right...C. infringment and we as a group can do NOTHING about it. We arent set up like that.

If Madoona and those other idiots want to believe that Mickey Mouse wearing a Yamulka came down on a flying saucer and is the real Creator..its up to her...but dont call what crap she believes-- Kabbalah or anything even close to it. SHEESHHH.

#5

Is she holding an onion in her left hand?

She doesn't need to; she just thinks about the idea of Jews governing themselves. Or living in her neighborhood without having to act like dhimmis.

The graduate journalists from the School of Michael Moore's Cheap Tricks, are now trained to carry two arosol cans. One is spray paint and the other is mace. Seems to be working as well as taught.

Hey, come to think of it...isn't that Michael dressed up in a womans garb? Laughing so hard at the scam he's pulling off, he's got tears in his eyes. Those clothes make him look 750 lbs. thinner..